In part 3 of 4 in an interview with Joe Martino, Joe explains the difference between failing and failure and what to do with it.

Honestly, every "functioning" adult should listen to Joe's ideas on this one... This is one of the most important thought shifts for any professional to make in their early career.

You can check out all  of Joe Martino's great work at
www.joemartino.com.

Hope you love the show!
Mark Shaffer
Philosopher Kings

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