The one and only Kelsey Hightower drops by the recording studios at Spotify’s global HQ in Stockholm to chat with host Dave Zolotusky about what it’s like being a software developer today: did it get harder or easier?

Hear Dave and Kelsey talk about what happens when tech becomes more accessible to more people, Kelsey’s role models and who he looks to for inspiration, when is the appropriate time to talk to your daughter about Docker containers, what comes after “move fast & break things”, what makes a good engineering culture — and how to recognize one when you’re interviewing. Plus, being a minimalist and how many pairs of pants do you really need.

Along with being a principal engineer and longtime developer advocate at Google Cloud, Kelsey is a legendary conference speaker, creator of Kubernetes The Hard Way, famous for never shying away from the hard topics on Twitter, mentor and role model to many, and one of the most respected voices in the engineering community today. We were very glad to nerd out with him.

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