In the 7th episode of the Certain podcast, Megan Folgado joins Anna, Mark, and Daniel to talk about the song Nothing New. Megan is Daniel's wife and also a licensed therapist.

They discuss Ecclesiastes 1:9 and why it was an inspiration for Anna to write this song. Is this verse hopeless, hopeful, or a mix of both? They talk about the circular nature of Ecclesiastes and how they interpret that in our current modern world.

Listen to the song HERE

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