It took a long time to get from there to here... but Discovery Season 4 is finally over. Mike and Johnson provide their thoughts on the finale of Discovery, which are mostly comprised of complaints (justified)? Hopefully a shorter Season 5 will bring us back to tighter storytelling, and and less bewildering character moments. But hey, Stacey Abrams?

We then move onto chatting about the Picard episode "Assimilation," which has our crew going in a few different directions in their quest to fix time. The highlight HAS to be the back and forth between Jurati and the Borg Queen, and we share our thoughts on a popular fan theory.