There is a funding gap between the Arts Council of England and the British Film Institute. This podcast deep dives and tumbles beyond the headlines - what is actually available for indie movie makers? And without this being resolved how does a British movie culture develop? The Arts Council refuses to engage with filmmakers as creative artists - passing the buck to the BFI which is actually skills training for the mainstream industry, which successfully generates £12.6bn for the economy.. The BFI is not about funding creativity in movie-making in the way ACE supports the arts. So where can indie movie directors go?