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Your most requested feature? Might be the worst thing you could build.
That's one of the lessons from my conversation with Mitchell Tan, co-founder of Kondo.
Kondo is the Superhuman for LinkedIn DMs โ a tool that turns the messy LinkedIn inbox into something you actually want to use. Keyboard shortcuts, labels, split inboxes, reminders. Built by a 3-person team. No public roadmap. And they say no to almost everything users ask for.
I've been using Kondo for months and it's genuinely changed how I handle LinkedIn. If you use LinkedIn professionally, you have to try it.
So I had to get Mitchell on the podcast to understand how they think about product.
๐ง ๐ช๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐๐ผ๐'๐น๐น ๐น๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ป ๐ถ๐ป ๐๐ต๐ถ๐ ๐ฒ๐ฝ๐ถ๐๐ผ๐ฑ๐ฒ:
0:00 - What is Kondo and how it started
1:40 - From recruiting firm to building a Superhuman-inspired SaaS
7:45 - Why "copying" great products is harder than it sounds
9:11 - The invisible UX details that make Superhuman feel faster (even when it's not)
13:52 - How LinkedIn DMs are fundamentally different from email
19:43 - Why Kondo has no public roadmap and ignores most feature requests
23:52 - The 3-question framework to decide what to build next
38:52 - How to define your aha moment (and why it's different for everyone)
49:33 - Why one-on-one onboarding calls still matter (and when to stop doing them)
55:51 - Forcing users through onboarding vs letting them explore freely
1:01:14 - Linear's hidden UX gems that inspire Kondo
๐ก ๐๐ฐ๐๐ถ๐ผ๐ป๐ฎ๐ฏ๐น๐ฒ ๐๐ฎ๐ธ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐๐ฎ๐๐ ๐ณ๐ฟ๐ผ๐บ ๐ ๐ถ๐๐ฐ๐ต๐ฒ๐น๐น:
โ ๐๐ฒ๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ฏ๐๐ถ๐น๐ฑ๐ถ๐ป๐ด ๐ฎ๐ป๐ ๐ณ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐๐๐ฟ๐ฒ, ๐ฎ๐๐ธ ๐ฏ ๐พ๐๐ฒ๐๐๐ถ๐ผ๐ป๐
Does it let you charge more? Does it convert non-payers? Does it reduce churn? If all three are no โ don't build it.
โ ๐๐ผ๐ฝ๐ ๐ด๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ ๐ฝ๐ฟ๐ผ๐ฑ๐๐ฐ๐๐, ๐ฏ๐๐ ๐๐ป๐ฑ๐ฒ๐ฟ๐๐๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ถ๐ป๐๐ฒ๐ป๐ ๐ณ๐ถ๐ฟ๐๐
Superhuman tracks your mouse direction to adjust UI response times. You can't just copy pixels โ you need to understand why things work before deciding what to borrow.
โ ๐๐ป๐ผ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐ก๐ข๐ง ๐๐ผ ๐ฐ๐ผ๐ฝ๐
Superhuman's split inbox works for email. But LinkedIn DMs are different โ all conversations with one person live in one thread. So Kondo built labels that create split tabs instead. Same goal, different execution.
โ ๐๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฐ๐ฒ ๐๐๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฟ๐ผ๐๐ด๐ต ๐ผ๐ป๐ฏ๐ผ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฑ๐ถ๐ป๐ด โ ๐ฏ๐๐ ๐ธ๐ป๐ผ๐ ๐๐ผ๐๐ฟ ๐ฎ๐๐ฑ๐ถ๐ฒ๐ป๐ฐ๐ฒ
Superhuman blocks clicking during their tutorial โ keyboard only. Kondo allows clicking because not everyone buys for shortcuts. Be opinionated, but match it to why people actually pay you.
โ ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ฐ๐ฒ๐ถ๐๐ฒ๐ฑ ๐๐ฝ๐ฒ๐ฒ๐ฑ > ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐๐๐ฎ๐น ๐๐ฝ๐ฒ๐ฒ๐ฑ
Kondo had the same response times as Superhuman but felt slower. The difference? Micro-animations. A subtle slide when you archive. Small details that make software feel alive.
By Jim ZarkadasYour most requested feature? Might be the worst thing you could build.
That's one of the lessons from my conversation with Mitchell Tan, co-founder of Kondo.
Kondo is the Superhuman for LinkedIn DMs โ a tool that turns the messy LinkedIn inbox into something you actually want to use. Keyboard shortcuts, labels, split inboxes, reminders. Built by a 3-person team. No public roadmap. And they say no to almost everything users ask for.
I've been using Kondo for months and it's genuinely changed how I handle LinkedIn. If you use LinkedIn professionally, you have to try it.
So I had to get Mitchell on the podcast to understand how they think about product.
๐ง ๐ช๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐๐ผ๐'๐น๐น ๐น๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ป ๐ถ๐ป ๐๐ต๐ถ๐ ๐ฒ๐ฝ๐ถ๐๐ผ๐ฑ๐ฒ:
0:00 - What is Kondo and how it started
1:40 - From recruiting firm to building a Superhuman-inspired SaaS
7:45 - Why "copying" great products is harder than it sounds
9:11 - The invisible UX details that make Superhuman feel faster (even when it's not)
13:52 - How LinkedIn DMs are fundamentally different from email
19:43 - Why Kondo has no public roadmap and ignores most feature requests
23:52 - The 3-question framework to decide what to build next
38:52 - How to define your aha moment (and why it's different for everyone)
49:33 - Why one-on-one onboarding calls still matter (and when to stop doing them)
55:51 - Forcing users through onboarding vs letting them explore freely
1:01:14 - Linear's hidden UX gems that inspire Kondo
๐ก ๐๐ฐ๐๐ถ๐ผ๐ป๐ฎ๐ฏ๐น๐ฒ ๐๐ฎ๐ธ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐๐ฎ๐๐ ๐ณ๐ฟ๐ผ๐บ ๐ ๐ถ๐๐ฐ๐ต๐ฒ๐น๐น:
โ ๐๐ฒ๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ฏ๐๐ถ๐น๐ฑ๐ถ๐ป๐ด ๐ฎ๐ป๐ ๐ณ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐๐๐ฟ๐ฒ, ๐ฎ๐๐ธ ๐ฏ ๐พ๐๐ฒ๐๐๐ถ๐ผ๐ป๐
Does it let you charge more? Does it convert non-payers? Does it reduce churn? If all three are no โ don't build it.
โ ๐๐ผ๐ฝ๐ ๐ด๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ ๐ฝ๐ฟ๐ผ๐ฑ๐๐ฐ๐๐, ๐ฏ๐๐ ๐๐ป๐ฑ๐ฒ๐ฟ๐๐๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ถ๐ป๐๐ฒ๐ป๐ ๐ณ๐ถ๐ฟ๐๐
Superhuman tracks your mouse direction to adjust UI response times. You can't just copy pixels โ you need to understand why things work before deciding what to borrow.
โ ๐๐ป๐ผ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐ก๐ข๐ง ๐๐ผ ๐ฐ๐ผ๐ฝ๐
Superhuman's split inbox works for email. But LinkedIn DMs are different โ all conversations with one person live in one thread. So Kondo built labels that create split tabs instead. Same goal, different execution.
โ ๐๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฐ๐ฒ ๐๐๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฟ๐ผ๐๐ด๐ต ๐ผ๐ป๐ฏ๐ผ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฑ๐ถ๐ป๐ด โ ๐ฏ๐๐ ๐ธ๐ป๐ผ๐ ๐๐ผ๐๐ฟ ๐ฎ๐๐ฑ๐ถ๐ฒ๐ป๐ฐ๐ฒ
Superhuman blocks clicking during their tutorial โ keyboard only. Kondo allows clicking because not everyone buys for shortcuts. Be opinionated, but match it to why people actually pay you.
โ ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ฐ๐ฒ๐ถ๐๐ฒ๐ฑ ๐๐ฝ๐ฒ๐ฒ๐ฑ > ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐๐๐ฎ๐น ๐๐ฝ๐ฒ๐ฒ๐ฑ
Kondo had the same response times as Superhuman but felt slower. The difference? Micro-animations. A subtle slide when you archive. Small details that make software feel alive.