In a small town of west Wales, David Hieatt is focusing on the difficult task of bringing 384 jobs back.

He's not afraid of difficult things, and often he uses them as the source of inspiration.

As the founder Hiut Denin and other successful businesses, he has faced chaos multiple times. Now he calls it a silent friend, the one that is there to show you the way.

Tune in to this fantastic conversation and learn how to learn from chaos.