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#08 - Navigating the Vibe

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"With the shift towards this multi-agent collaboration and orchestration world, you need a neutral substrate that has money, identity, cryptography, and web-of-trust  baked in, to make everything work."

Pablo & Gigi are getting high on glue nostr.

 

Books and articles mentioned:

  • Saving beauty by Byung-Chul Han
  • LLMs as a tool for thought by Amelia Wattenberger

    • In this dialogue:

    • vibeline & vibeline-ui
    • LLMs as tools, and how to use them
    • Vervaeke: AI thresholds & the path we must take
    • Hallucinations and grounding in reality
    • GPL, LLMs, and open-source licensing
    • Pablo's multi-agent Roo setup
    • Are we going to make programmers obsolete?
    • "When it works it's amazing"
    • Hiring & training agents
    • Agents creating RAG databases of NIPs
    • Different models and their context windows
    • Generalists vs specialists
    • "Write drunk, edit sober"
    • DVMCP.fun
    • Recklessness and destruction of vibe-coding 
    • Sharing secrets with agents & LLMs 
    • The "no API key" advantage of nostr
    • What data to trust? And how does nostr help? 
    • Identity, web of trust, and signing data 
    • How to fight AI slop
    • Marketplaces of code snippets 
    • Restricting agents with expert knowledge 
    • Trusted sources without a central repository 
    • Zapstore as the prime example 
    • "How do you fight off re-inventing GitHub?" 
    • Using large context windows to help with refactoring 
    • Code snippets for Olas, NDK, NIP-60, and more
    • Using MCP as the base 
    • Using nostr as the underlying substrate 
    • Nostr as the glue & the discovery layer 
    • Why is this important? 
    • Why is this exciting? 
    • "With the shift towards this multi-agent collaboration and orchestration world, you need a neutral substrate that has money/identity/cryptography and web-of-trust  baked in, to make everything work."
    • How to single-shot nostr applications 
    • "Go and create this app" 
    • The agent has money, because of NIP-60/61
    • PayPerQ 
    • Anthropic and the genius of mcp-tools 
    • Agents zapping & giving SkyNet more money 
    • Are we going to run the mints? 
    • Are agents going to run the mints? 
    • How can we best explain this to our bubble? 
    • Let alone to people outside of our bubble? 
    • Building pipelines of multiple agents 
    • LLM chains & piped Unix tools 
    • OpenAI vs Anthropic 
    • Genius models without tools vs midwit models with tools 
    • Re-thinking software development 
    • LLMs allow you to tackle bigger problems 
    • Increased speed is a paradigm shift 
    • Generalists vs specialists, left brain vs right brain 
    • Nostr as the home for specialists 
    • fiatjaf publishing snippets (reluctantly) 
    • fiatjaf's blossom implementation 
    • Thinking with LLMs
    • The tension of specialization VS generalization 
    • How the publishing world changed
    • Stupid faces on YouTube thumbnails 
    • Gaming the algorithm 
    • Will AI slop destroy the attention economy? 
    • Recency bias & hiding publication dates 
    • Undoing platform conditioning as a success metric 
    • Craving realness in a fake attention world 
    • The theater of the attention economy 
    • What TikTok got "right" 
    • Porn, FoodPorn, EarthPorn, etc. 
    • Porn vs Beauty 
    • Smoothness and awe 
    • "Beauty is an angel that could kill you in an instant (but decides not to)."
    • The success of Joe Rogan & long-form conversations 
    • Smoothness fatigue & how our feeds numb us 
    • Nostr & touching grass 
    • How movement changes conversations 
    • LangChain & DVMs 
    • Central models vs marketplaces 
    • Going from assembly to high-level to conceptual 
    • Natural language VS programming languages 
    • Pablo's code snippets 
    • Writing documentation for LLMs
    • Shared concepts, shared language, and forks 
    • Vibe-forking open-source software 
    • Spotting vibe-coded interfaces 
    • Visualizing nostr data in a 3D world 
    • Tweets, blog posts, and podcasts 
    • Vibe-producing blog posts from conversations 
    • Tweets are excellent for discovery 
    • Adding context to tweets (long-form posts, podcasts, etc) 
    • Removing the character limit was a mistake 
    • "Everyone's attention span is rekt"
    • "There is no meaning without friction" 
    • "Nothing worth having ever comes easy" 
    • Being okay with doing the hard thing
    • Growth hacks & engagement bait
    • TikTok, theater, and showing faces and emotions
    • The 1% rule: 99% of internet users are Lurkers
    • "We are socially malnourished"
    • Web-of-trust and zaps bring realness
    • The semantic web does NOT fix this LLMs might
    • "You can not model the world perfectly"
    • Hallucination as a requirement for creativity



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