In which Harry and Mairead discuss the Chinese cultural revolution and espionage.

For more on the cultural revolution, Harry recommends Mao Zedong and China in the Twentieth-Century World by Rebecca Karl.

Mairead recommends the podcast/radio program Because News, perusing this espionage dictionary, and reading Vera Atkins’ biography and a chronicle of the all-female concentration camp Ravensbruck, both by Sarah Helm.

Our music is "Chop Shop (Instrumental)" by White Flowers, and our logo is by ei8htz.