Hacking pacemakers to plummet a stock price not save a life. Rob Graham, CEO of Errata Security, shares insights and predictions on device security research in the wake of Muddy Waters and MedSec public vulnerability disclosures of St Jude's medical devices. Stephen Fleming, Atlanta native, long-time observer of the local startup scene, and early investor in the privatization of space flight joins the show to discuss the rocketing private space race.