We look at age completely differently in our 20's than we do in our 50's. This week Charlie talks to his former student Gene Pope, who didn't begin serious acting training until he was almost 60. Charlie and Gene talk about the winding path that ultimately lead him into the classroom, the successes and failures along the way, and the amazing decade that has followed. Gene discusses his first major feature length film King of Knives which came out in 2020, and the upcoming Queen of Knives opening in March 2024. You can go to https://www.queenofknivesthefilm.com for more information. Enjoy this inspiring conversation about the creative life. You can follow CBP on Instagram @creatingbehavior, and Charlie's NYC acting conservatory, the Maggie Flanigan Studio @maggieflaniganstudio. Theme music by  https://www.thelawrencetrailer.com. For written transcripts, to leave a voicemail on SpeakPipe, or contact Charlie for private coaching, check out https://www.creatingbehaviorpodcast.com