Ugur is my old boss at Collective and was a big reason I joined that company. He is super thoughtful and lives avery interesting life. Have been wanting to ahve a conversation with him for a while, so am really proud to be releasing this episode. 

00:00:20 I am who I am not
00:12:44 Our friendship
00:19:14 Integrating our parts
00:34:34 Drug journey
00:45:16 Ugur's new company
01:01:40 Pideaky

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