When this thing started as an Under The Gun branded show, Brian Leak (aka The Lion) was initially supposed to be my cohost. Alas, a change in career led him to Substream Magazine where he is now Editor In Chief. A week removed from dropping his first issue there, we discuss how starting at a local rag evolved into a career. You’ll have to forgive some audio artifacts. Brian had a rough night of being ill the night before, so he forgot his headphones. As a result there are a few overlaps in dialogue.