With the APB still out for Ardin Beech, Jonathan hit the road this week to interview Morling College Principal Dr. Tim MacBride about the state of theological education and the shortage of pastoral candidates that is verging on crisis.

Join us as Tim shares his passion for preaching and his insights into trends in training for ministry.  Along the way you'll glean some tips for navigating changes in life and discover why Artificial Intelligence won't be running preachers out of their jobs anytime soon.  

***Note: Jonathan experienced some technical difficulties during the end of the recording and whilst Ardin surely would not have made any such mistake, at least Jonathan had the foresight to provide Mariah with a backup recording to salvage the podcast!