Debbie is an Ex-Muslim convert(Hizb ut Tahrir), Born Mennonite, Currently an Atheist. Free from patriarchy, Fighting to expose oppression.

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The YouTube version of this conversation can be found here: https://youtu.be/S47TFrbPzYs

Here are the time stamps for this interview:

0:00 Introductions and the interesting link between Abdullah Sameer and Debbie.3:23 How Deborah was encouraged by her now ex-husband to ‘save’ Abdullah’s wife from her murtad husband.6:54 Deborah’s family background - her Mennonite upbringing9:07 How Deborah met her ex-husband and how this led her deep into Islam.13:28 Parallels between Deborah’s experiences and Abdullah’s wife’s experiences when they married Muslim men.15:44 How Hizb ut Tahrir and other Islamists are taking advantage of democratic freedoms while fighting to have those rights banned.17:19 The reasons why Hizb ut Tahrir is against ISIS.20:18 The way of strangers - by Graeme Wood. The fake Mahdi.23:59 The main goals of Hizb ut Tahrir25:00 Deborah’s life as a wife of a high-ranking Hizb ut Tahrir member.28:36 Channel announcements: Debbie’s channel.29:05 Normalizing leaving Islam. The hypocrisy of Islam and Muslims when they claim that there is no compulsion in religion while also attacking people who leave the religion.30:11 Hizb ut Tahrir’s position on slavery and Abdullah’s ‘little rant’ about Hizb ut Tahrir34:45 The importance of talking about political Islam and pushing back against it. Why is it Hizb ut Tahrir wants world domination?37:45 Debbie’s deradicalization process and why she sympathizes with people who joined ISIS and now want out.40:16 How Islam perpetuates the US versus THEM mentality42:55 The teaching about joining the caliphate once one is established45:01 Spiritual abuse - using religion to control and abuse members of your family.46:59 Debbie’s experience of having her husband marry a second wife.50:33 How Debbie lost friends because of her husband’s polygamy51:25 How prevalent is polygamy in the Canadian Muslim community? Debbie’s friendship with the second wife. The emotional toll that polygamy had on Debbie.59:55 The impact that polygamy had on the children1:00:40 Debbie’s advice to people who have family members who are jumping into the deep end of Islam.1:01:20 Abdullah’s experience as a Muslim in Canada.1:07:22 Hizb ut Tahrir’s teachings to not get involved with the secular government, not donating blood or body organs1:09:46 Islamic counseling and how useless and unpractical it is.1:12:24 How Debbie’s marriage deteriorated and how she ended up divorcing her husband.1:18:28 The importance of access to information and how the Muslim countries are blocking information critical of Islam.1:24:14 The Quran challenge.1:25:35 Responding to comments: Hizb ut Tahrir’s view of Saudi Arabia and other Muslim countries, Debbie’s former religion is a cult.1:32:40 Debbie’s views on veganism.1:34:50 Channel announcements: Debbie’s channel and the type of content she is planning to produce1:37:50 Keith Moore and his praises for Islam.1:39:11 The Quranic spotlight blog and how it debunked the embryology miracle.1:42:28 Debbie’s final thoughts.1:43:43 Channel announcements and Abdullah’s final thoughts.