My conversation this week is with Astrophysicist Adam Frank is a leading expert on the final stages of evolution for stars like the sun, and his computational research group at the University of Rochester has developed advanced supercomputer tools for studying how stars form and how they die. Today we're discussing his book, 'Light of the Stars: Alien Worlds and the Fate of the Earth'.

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