There's a certain amount of tenacity and grit you will need if you are going to carve out a professional creative life. The actor's journey never plays out the way you think or hope it will. This week Charlie talks to one of his best friends of thirty years, actor PJ Sosko. PJ has never sat back and waited for things to happen. He writes, directs, produces, and edits his own content. Several are now appearing in film festivals across the country. Charlie and PJ talk about his career, what he's learned along the way, and how moving to Tulsa, Oklahoma during the pandemic took his career to another level. You can follow CBP on Instagram @creatingbehavior, and Charlie's NYC acting conservatory, the Maggie Flanigan Studio @maggieflaniganstudio. Theme music by  https://www.thelawrencetrailer.com. To leave a voicemail on SpeakPipe, or contact Charlie for private coaching, check out https://www.creatingbehaviorpodcast.com and his NYC acting studio  https://www.maggieflaniganstudio.com.