TT and Dan talk about their basketball origins. Then they talk about Christmas horror movies BLACK CHRISTMAS (1974) and RELIC (2019), and what's horrific about the holiday.

(1:35) Dan’s basketball origin story

(10:23) TT’s basketball origin story

(22:18) Comparing our training in watching movies

(38:40) Natalie James's RELIC (2019)

(1:13:07) Contemplating podcast ending strategies