In this conversation, Tim McKenna discusses the need to create a more unified and inclusive design profession. He highlights the importance of embracing the diverse backgrounds and experiences of designers and finding ways to integrate them into the field. Tim also reflects on the challenges of balancing work and personal life, overcoming fear and uncertainty, and the value of continuous learning. He shares his passion for brewing beer and the satisfaction he finds in helping others. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the importance of growth, balance, and community in the design profession.