In the first episode we talk about the roots and characteristics of civilisations with Alexander Lazslo and Heeten. Alexander is the Director of Research at the Laszlo Institute of New Paradigm Research and  Scientific Director at EARTHwise Centre. Heeten was born in Zimbabwe. Having recently completed a PhD, he has returned to offer creative, strategic and manual-labour support to organisations and communities regionally, with more verve and a newly-found humility. 

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