Ewout Karel is a Corporate Jammer, Professional tinkerer, and an Innovation Specialist. Since 2015, he has worked as innovation manager at T-mobile. He is co-founder and the innovation director of Chateau, a creative powerhouse in Amsterdam. And his love for jamming and innovation even resulted in his book Corporate Jamming 1.0.

In this episode, Ewout explains:

- why he thinks its super important that big corporates work together with small techs and startups

- why a corporate is NEVER the one that drives the innovation

- why you shouldn’t spend your day on rigid contract conversations, but on creative informal coffee agreements

- why drinking coffee with strangers is the best thing you can do as an innovator

More about Ewout:

https://corporatejamming.com

https://chateau.amsterdam

More about Jelle’s startup Care-Riing: https://care-riing.com

More about David Marquet, retired US Navy Captain, and expert on Leadership and Innovation, watch this video: https://youtu.be/psAXMqxwol8

The Un-Machine Yourself is a podcast by Hatch.

Producer: Gabriëlla van der Linden