An awesome discussion with John Clowdus of Small Box Games where we talk about what got him into game design, keeping things as small as possible, Omen (! kind of), adapting gameplay from art, some books, MTG, and various other topics. In this varied conversation, John (impressively) keeps all of my questioning together to tell an interesting story about his independent designs and publishing.

Check out John's games at https://www.smallboxgames.com/games

Pre-orders open up monthly, and there are print and play options as well.