Doug and Zach worked together at Intel. Zach took a major risk and moved his family to the Ukraine so that his children could learn his wife's native language and see Europe from the perspective of a local.

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Welcome to the terminal value Podcast where each episode provides in depth insight about the long term value of companies and ideas in our current world. Your host for this podcast is Doug Utberg, the founder and principal consultant for Business of Life, LLC.

Doug: Alright, welcome to the terminal value podcast. My name is Doug and I have a guest today His name is Zach Everton. Zach can actually work together for quite a while back at Intel. And Zach has a very unique story. What he did was he actually left a major company in his hometown to go and live in Ukraine with his wife, who of course, is also Ukrainian, and their kids to give them a different life experience. And I brought Zach on because I think he's a really cool guy. And being he's kind of a hero of mine, just because, you know, he took a really, really big risk. And he's just figuring it out. Zach, how are you doing?

Zach: I'm good. 

Doug: Awesome.

Zach: Excited to catch up with you. It feels like we haven't talked in a while, like, I know, like three years.

Doug: Or so half years. Yeah. A little bit of background for all the listeners at home. So Zach and I both worked at Intel. I left Intel about right around 2018. And you Zach left shortly after that. But you know, it's been, you know, at the time of this recording is 2020. You know, the, the, you know, the year of everybody's misery, apparently memorable year in all of human history, probably. But yeah, it's been a couple years since Zach, and I've caught up, we reconnected on LinkedIn. And yeah, I'm just really interested in hearing Zach's perspective, just because the way that he has made his decisions is so different from the way that a lot of us do. You know, a lot of us are like, okay, you know, you need to get promoted, you need to make more money, you need to move to a bigger house, you need to get bigger cars, you know, you don't get more debt. And you and Zach actually made a very significant life change for the benefit of his kids so that his kids could learn about his wife's culture. That's just one of the things I've always really admired about Zach. So Zach, you just tell us a little bit about that. And you're a part of what I'm trying to do for all the viewers and listeners is to give them a perspective into some different ways of thinking just because of corporates kind of all tend to sound alike after a little while. And it's like, there's a lot of people and companies that are actually, you know, kind of regular normal salt of the earth kind of people. And I'm just really intrigued by people that think different from, you know, what, you know, what you see out of the 10ks and 10qs?

Zach: Yeah, well I get a, it's hard to know where to start with all of it. But basically, you know, the choice that we made in 2018, to, to move to Ukraine, that was a meeting of two very strong forces. One of them was my wife being very tied to her Ukrainian culture, and wanting her children to be exposed to that and to feel like they were tied to it as well. 

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