This is the first episode of a new podcast! I talk to the Rev'd Rodger Patience about his two vocations, as a corporate trainer and consultant in the higher education sector, and as a clergyman. We talk about his two decades as a deacon before becoming a priest. We talk about his career apart from the church. And I get a book recommendation!

Connect with Rodger on

Rodger's recommendation, a book: The Long Way to A Small Angry Planet by Becky Chambers

This Calling is hosted by Chris Arnold, and is one of two podcasts launching this spring from Apple Tree Podcasts. Find Apple Tree on twitter or facebook.

Find out more at https://this-calling.pinecast.co

This podcast is powered by Pinecast.