In this conversation, Phil from the NODE Foundation discusses the vision and mission of the foundation, emphasizing the importance of community, education, and innovative presentation in the digital art space. He reflects on his journey from Bright Moments to NODE, the shift from traditional art institutions to a network model, and the challenges and opportunities in onboarding new users to digital art. The discussion also touches on the emotional aspects of art collecting and the need for a cultural backbone in the rapidly evolving technological landscape.