Darren Grimes of Reasoned talks to two trans women, Dr Debbie Hayton, a physics teacher and trade unionist and Rose of Dawn, a YouTuber who explores and critiques the modern trans community and trans activism.

Darren explores the heated debate around transgenderism and self-identification, with some calling for reforms that would remove women from the Equality Act.

Two trans women, one from the Left and one from the Right of politics, to discuss beyond the much-repeated line of ‘trans women are women’ - what does this mean in policy terms?And with the ambiguous use of ‘women’ in relation to both sex and gender, is it important that in some areas of our lives we sex-segregate? And should it ever be acceptable for children, uncomfortable in their bodies as teens, to be placed on generally irreversible hormones and treatments?

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