About creativity, the difference between complexity and intelligence, if creativity is an inherent or a learned trait, the Five—Factor Model, the difference between creativity and creative abilities, arrogant artists, ingenuity in Brazilian Jiujitsu, maths, and physics, if creativity can be a burden, and the nutcase Isaac Newton.

Maja Malmcrona (@majamalmcrona) is an artist from Sweden. T is a software tester from the United Kingdom. They both live in Zürich, Switzerland.

Recorded in Zürich on April 18, 2021.