In this episode, I tell you about a man I interviewed (in real life) a while ago, because I interviewed him again more recently (on Zoom, in lockdown) and I think you might like to know his backstory first. He's Brendan Barns.

Plus... I share a short highlight from an interview with Dr Guy Hayward, an all-round entertainer and polymath who inspired me to do last year's Virtual Pilgrimage (and this years too). 

And... your good fortune really is boundless today because in this episode I also share a handful of facts about a remarkable writer, Hilaire Belloc - who helped to re-create the notion of pilgrimage in the UK. His book, which Guy mentions, can be found here.

And finally... I continue to experiment with sound effects because - well, this is audio, right, and I'm enjoying myself.