This episode is 2 hours long. I could have broken it up into 2 segments and cut some of the content out in post production, but I chose not to because it truly is a journey to engage in a dialogue within Jeff. I wanted the listeners to experience it for themselves. Every conversation with Jeff is an adventure - analogous to his life; meandering on various paths of loose association, but somehow remaining relevant to the mission at hand. Starting as a college football player at Tabor College in Kansas, Jeff transferred to UCF to finish his college career under Lou Saban. He then dabbled in personal training for a number of years before falling into the underground wrestling circuit in the International Wrestling Federation (IWF). He then debuted on the pro circuit as "Lighting" in the WCW tag team "Thunder and Lightning". He is most well known for being "Sting" in the NWO. Jeff had a 10 year career in pro wrestling, including multiple stints in New Japan Pro-Wrestling (NJPW) before retiring in his early 40s and segueing into a career in education and academia alongside his late brother, world renowned humanitarian and epidemiologist Paul Farmer. There is not a dull moment in this episode or a split second of silence. Enjoy every second and good luck keeping up!