Tom introduces the idea of the mirror through the film Shine or at least Tom's connection to the film. Heron raises the distinction between British aristocracy and trailer trash. Tom talks about doing humor in a serious fashion. Heron thinks Tom is not quite finished. Tom complains about forced writing. Heron asks about blogging. (Tom misspeaks Douglas Rushkoff's comic was mid-2000s.) Tom offers some discussion about Facebook as a tool for creating social movements and Fred Hampton. They both explore Burning Man and the Trialogues. Tom asks where is Bertrand today? Heron thinks banal is the answer.