Spencer Bauer talks with Nate Marling of Marling Baits, and Nick Rundle.

Topics Discussed: What makes a lure good enough; 10,000 baits a year; How two bait makers met; Catching fish on your own baits; Wearing GoPros; Places you fish; Pond Management; Quality control; Unreliable heaters; Freezing your kayak; Vertical jigging and walking banks; Weird catches on diddy poles; Herons fornicating; Weird things in catfish stomachs; Catching small fish on big lures, and big fish on small baits; Muskie fishing; Weighing fish and why I don't; Tournaments with your buddies; If you could only fish for one fish the rest of your life; What's so great about crappies; Strongest fish pound-for-pound, Is the ocean really that diverse; A 20/0 circle hook

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