In this bonus episode, Kristen Ghodsee speaks with an anarchist activist recently returned from a pipeline resistance camp (who wished to remain anonymous). They discuss theories of organizing for successful social movements, and the lingering fears of the vanguard party that haunt the left.

Mentioned in this episode are the books:

Mutual Aid: Building Solidarity Through This Crisis (and the Next), by Dean Spade
Neither Vertical nor Horizontal: A Theory of Political Organization, by Rodrigo Nunes

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Kristen R. Ghodsee is the award-winning author of twelve books and a professor and chair of Russian and East European Studies at the University of Pennsylvania.