On this episode of the Planet Shivers podcast Fiona McKenzie, co-host of the Golden State of Mind Podcast, masterfully takes over the microphone and the show, to reverse the roles on me for an interview. 

Available on all major podcast platforms and Youtube. 

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Albert Shivers - @albertshivers 

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