It's time for us to chat about the very first episode of The OC. Scott says it's called "Premiere." Elyse thinks it's called "Pilot." They're both right and also it doesn't matter!

Also: Rosies, Thornies and some Bachelor In Paradise

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Show Note:

4:00 - Rosies and Thornies

22:44 - Episode Discussion

1:03:50 - Bachelor In Paradise Check-In