Seja talks to her guest Sally Seltmann (New Buffalo) about her studio set-up, her dogs, co-writing sessions and how to keep ideas fresh. They chat about their shared similarities, working with and taking criticism from your partner, self producing and record label politics. Sally tells Seja about the financial side of being a songwriter vs feeling satisfied creatively, how making music is medicine and about the joys of hearing her daughter play music.

Sally’s strange show story was illustrated by Seja. All illustrations can be seen on instagram @hearsejpodcast or on the HearSej Facebook page.