Greg doesn't give a shit that Jony Ive has left Apple, so Nati tries to bore him with discussing Ive's departure.

We also talk about English weather, Apple management, Huawei's Android issues, being a product manager and what the hell is the difference between UI and UX.

• Greg Morris - @GR36
• Nati Shochat - @natisho

Show Notes:

• Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client
• Inside Apple's Long Goodbye to Design Chief Jony Ive
• Ive's first on-stage Apple keynote appearance
• Eddy Cue talks TV and not falling asleep in meetings
• Trump and Huawei
• Kuo on 2020 iPhones: 5.4-Inch and 6.7-Inch Models With 5G, 6.1-Inch Model With LTE, All With OLED Displays