In this episode Matt interviews Alper on other ways into angel investing. Matt has a dream that we can provide a service and magically become part owners of, say, Microsoft, but Alper squashes that dream, saying that yes, some actual money is probably going to be needed.

But don't worry, if all you want is to brag to your friends over a beer, you can probably get in for not much, but you're probably going to get, well, not much.