What if two people from completely different worlds were actually talking about the same thing all along?

In this episode of The Focus Trap, Amy and Casey talk about where they came from, how they each ended up teaching in completely different fields, and how a conversation about email somehow turned into a photography podcast.

Amy shares how she went from math and physics teacher to photographing dog sports professionally, building a custom system to sort thousands of dog photos, and accidentally creating a business around solving problems nobody else was paying attention to yet.

Casey talks about being wounded in Iraq at 19, navigating life with PTSD and a brain injury, and eventually building a coaching practice around helping other people untangle the same kinds of overwhelm and identity shifts she had to figure out herself.

They also talk about:

• The overlap between creativity and nervous system regulation
• ADHD, late diagnosis, and identity shifts
• Problem solving as a shared language
• Why both of them became teachers
• The origin of the name “The Focus Trap”

Along the way, there are stories about floppy disk cameras, dog shows, CrossFit coaching, TikTok algorithms, bird photography workshops, and the realization that maybe the email was never actually about the email.

00:00 Welcome

00:37 How Did This Partnership Even Happen?

08:04 Film Cameras, Dog Shows, and Building a Photography Business

22:48 It Was Never About the Email

25:22 PTSD, ADHD, and Learning Yourself the Hard Way

44:35 Photography, Nervous Systems, and Learning to Be Curious

51:17 Why the Show Exists

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📸 Find Amy and learn more about her photography coaching: www.greatdanephotoadventures.com

🧠 Find Casey and learn more about what she's up to: www.caseyjourdan.com

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