Ashley Smith and I shot 7 years ago and never worked or talked with each other again due to a stupid misunderstanding. We reunited recently based around a side project she is currently working on and discovered we share a lot more in common. Following her recent Playboy cover and feature, she received some backlash for her looks, so we we sat down with a little too much beer to talk about the complex and complicated world of those of us navigating art and branding around sexiness and sexuality within the commercial/fashion infrastructures. We also talk through Ashley's hustle and drive.

PS: We get a little drunk in the making of this episode and sing for you... you'll love our singing because we love you!

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