Naomi and Kate Codrington have a in-depth chat about the menopause, the opportunity to resolve lifelong issues and why all roads lead to the safety and sanctity of vulnerability and tenderness. Kate's book 'Second Spring' is being published by Harper Collins in February 2022.

You can find Kate on instagram here

Show host - Naomi Woddis

Originally broadcast on Reel Rebels Radio

Music : Gavin O'Brien - Citóg