Fran Ninow and Jude Mitchell are two inspirational ladies. 10 years ago, with teenage children and one divorce between them, they borrowed money from a friend and started up a small magazine, called Verve. It started from hard work and perseverance..they literally cold-called until they found advertisers.

Today, Verve is one of the most glossy and highly regarded local magazines here in New Zealand.

Here, Jacqui chats to them both about hard work, perseverance and how, even with children and divorce, women out there can aspire to and achieve anything they want...

http://vervemagazine.co.nz/