In the first story, I talk to David Heinemeier Hansson [http://loudthinking.com/] creator of Ruby on Rails, [http://rubyonrails.org/] partner at 37Signals [http://37signals.com/] and author of Rework about the inspiration and shepherding of Ruby on Rails.

In the second story, Scott talks to Dan Bricklin [http://danbricklin.com/history/saimiddle.htm] who in the late 70s and early 80s helped to usher in the computer age, as well as a new industry. Dan is the creator of Visicalc - the first spreadsheet program.

Music

* Making me Nervous: Brad Sucks [http://www.bradsucks.net/]

* Nine Inch Nails: Ghosts [http://ghosts.nin.com/main/home]

* Willamson [http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/a-few-things-to-hear-before/id4476329]

* John Williams: Acoustic Country Blues Guitar [http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/acoustic-country-blues-guitar/id16684873]

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