This week on the pod we're talking about clogging, Broadway's secrety bowling league, drag race, why we love cons (DragCon, Clexacon, PaleyFest), the Mike Shur Cinematic Universe, Mindy Kaling writing the new LEGALLY BLONDE (whaaat?!), whether 2015 youtube is coming back, and Ash's time at Camp Lost Boys, an all trans man camp! 

Now that's what I call podcast! 

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About the Hosts

Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one?

• Instagram: @awkwardholland
• TikTok: @awkwardholland
• Website: http://AmandaHollandWritesThings.com

Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC’s “HOME ECONOMICS” and Freeform’s “GOOD TROUBLE.” In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced “Michelle Obama’s Closing Argument.”    Most recently he created “New Guy Tries” for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, “Speak Now” with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, “Read This For Inspiration” published with Clarkson Potter.

• Instagram: @itsashlyperez
• TikTok: @notashperez

Episode Notes

Check out/ donate to Camp Lost Boys here.

The season of Drag Race All Stas we were talking about is season 7: All Stars, All Winners. 

The Broadway show we were referencing is "Oh, Mary!"