In this episode, Sara Gaudioso (They/Them) discusses coming out non-binary at the age of 38, and the challenges they have relating to cis folx on how to explain their gender identity. Finally, Sara, Natalie, and Amy discuss how we can help the evolution of the English language to be more inclusive of non-binary identities. In the second Amy and Natalie share their final thoughts of their interview with Sara, and announce that podcast General Counsel Francesca Rodriguez will be taking a hiatus from her weekly segment.