In this deeply intimate and courageous interview interdisciplinary artist Leon Clowes talks about early childhood trauma and the impact on his life and art. Leon shares the experience of being brought up by his grandparents and not finding out who his father was until he was in his 40's. His project 'Nan Kids' explores kinship care in more detail.

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4th-10th October is Kinship Care week

CW: Adoption, trauma, addiction, sexual violence, family secrets

Show host - Naomi Woddis

Originally broadcast on Reel Rebels Radio

Music : Gavin O'Brien - Citóg