Most people might know Jerry as the creator of the Scale It Back YouTube channel. In this discussion, we explore his new industrial project, Liminal Spirit, the concept of atmosphere as the essence of music, modern media consumption, and more. Music at the end of the episode is 'Expanses' from the debut Liminal Spirit album.

Liminal Spirit Bandcamp: https://liminalspirit.bandcamp.com/album/liminal-spirit

Scale it Back YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbf3uRicqMdpwebpNVvsmsQ

Additional sources casually discussed:

Why Florida? Regional conditions and further development of the “Florida death metal” scene and the local public response (1984–1994), by Marco Swiniartzki: https://online.ucpress.edu/jpms/article/33/3/168/118562/Why-Florida-Regional-conditions-and-further

Music as Atmosphere, edited by Friedlind Riedel and Juha Torvinen: https://www.amazon.com/Music-Atmosphere-Collective-Atmospheres-Experiences/dp/0815358687/

Celibidache's philosophy of music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SthKs40ClCY&t