Our guest today is Martijn Grooten. He’s editor at Virus Bulletin, an online forum for sharing the latest cybersecurity research and intelligence, which dates back to 1989. They’re also an independent testing and certification body, and they hold a popular international security conference annually.

Our conversation spans a range of topics, including the evolution of threats that Martijn has tracked over the past several decades, the current state of malicious email campaigns, why he believes some organizations overstate the potential impact of nation-state attacks, his thoughts on threat intelligence, and his recommendations for how organizations can best protect themselves.