Pat and Alora have a great talk about trying your best and are people in the world actually trying their best. 
Pat had an incident that made him think that the certain driver of a van was not trying their best and Alora believes that some kids at school do not try their best. 

But for the most people are trying their best.

They also talk about kindness and how both Pat and Alora like to be considered as kind.
How far do they go down that rabbit hole. Gotta listen to find out. 

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