If you’re reading this but haven’t yet listened to the first half of the conversation between Adam Greenfield and Dean Haspiel, well, what you’re about to listen to probably won’t make sense. Therefore we highly suggest going here and listening to that first. Trust us, this episode will make more sense if you listen to the previous half first. If you’re one of those weirdos that reads the last chapter or page of a book before you read everything else, well, do your thing but we don’t trust you. Just sayin’.

If you’ve listened to the first half and are ready to go, enjoy. Again, if you’re a weirdo and haven’t listened to the first half yet, you’ve been warned.