This week’s guest thinks what we do is too simple, nevermind the two years and a hundred podcast episodes, Mark Marmer does his work in design and build contracts for electric vehicle charging stations for condominiums.

Our chat with him talks about the paradigm shift that electric cars represent, especially as driving becomes automated, but also working a contract start to finish over bidding to a specification, Toronto real-estate and the value add a charging station represents, as well as how fast the switch to electric is really coming. Mark breaks out his crystal ball to share his vision of transportation for the next twenty years.

The show does close on a lighting topic as he asks about how Greg and Michael work with sensors and controls and how there’s a difference between simplifying this and merchandising complexity.